Jan 19, 1980
Edmonton - Pittsburgh5-2

Summary Of Events
1  2:11  Fight  Messier-Anderson
2  21:21  Fight  Lumley-Anderson
3  27:33  Cheap Shot  Gretzky-Clackson
4  27:33  Bench-Clearing Brawl    
5  27:33  Fight  Mio-Millen
6  27:33  Fight  Messier-Clackson
7  27:33  Fight  Semenko-Anderson
8  27:33  Fight  Lumley-Kindrachuk
9  27:33  Fight  Connor-Anderson
10  27:33  Fight  Messier-Hughes
11  27:33  Fight  Semenko-Clackson
12  27:33  Fight  Semenko-Clackson
13  27:33  Fight  Semenko-Clackson
14  33:34  Fight  Callighen-Carlyle
15  37:13  Fight  Campbell-Malone

Fight at 2:11
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 Mark Messier 6'2''  211lb 11N/AN/AN/AN/A
 Russ Anderson 6'2''  200lb 11N/AN/AN/A
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Fight at 21:21
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 Dave Lumley 5'11'' 3185lb 15N/AN/AN/AN/A
 Russ Anderson 6'2'' 3200lb 15N/AN/AN/A
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Cheap Shot at 27:33
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 Wayne Gretzky  (Victim) 6'0'' 2185lb 10N/A
 Kim Clackson  (Aggressor) 5'10'' 2195lb 10
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Aug 27, 2013 16:22 ET
Clackson got some lumber and a shoulder up on Gretzky. Wayne made a rush in front of the Penguins net. Kim landed a cross-check on Wayne's shoulder. Gretzky went down pretty hard and was shaken up.

This was the trigger for the bench-clearing incident. The Clacker nailed Gretzky up high and got his stick into the hit. I think it was a dirty play. Wayne was shaken up and I don't think he was faking. His body was stretched out after making a play and he was not able to brace his body for the hit up high.
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7
 Emotion 
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Bench-Clearing Brawl at 27:33
Edmonton PlayersPittsburgh Players
Duration N/A  Brett Callighen  Colin Campbell  Ron Chipperfield  Cam Connor  Wayne Gretzky  Doug Hicks  Kevin Lowe  Blair MacDonald  Mark Messier  Eddie Mio  Pat Price  Bobby Schmautz  Dave Semenko  Risto Siltanen     Randy Carlyle  Kim Clackson  Mario Faubert  Pat Hughes  Rick Kehoe  Orest Kindrachuk  Peter Lee  Greg Malone  Greg Millen   
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Aug 27, 2013 16:09 ET
This was a tremendous bench-clearer. There are only bits and pieces of it recorded on video. There have been some accounts written about the action, but I am going on visual evidence available to all. Some of the reports have been a bit sketchy and the authenticity may not be entirely accurate.

What is clear is that it was a rough and chippy game. Ron Stackhouse fell and was rammed from behind into the boards. His legs awkwardly went into the boards. He escaped serious injury as you could see him on the ice later in the brawl.

The real trouble started when Wayne Gretzky was in front of the Penguins goal. Kim Clackson lowered his shoulder and landed a blow near the dynamic centerman's head. Wayne went down hard and was lying prone on the ice. At this point, it appears that the Oliers started to leave the bench.

Dave Semenko and Kim Clackson went at it. Apparently, they had multiple bouts. One of their fights was shown in the footage. Semenko landed an average blow. The Clacker landed a good left hand that stunned Dave and made him clinch. Unfortunately, we don't see the entirety of the fight.

Cam Connor was always a dangerous guy in these instances. Two players were wrestling on the ice. Cam landed a couple of sucker shots on the player. I couldn't identify the player, but a Penguin got drilled with a couple of good shots.

Semenko had a fight with the Clacker in the penalty box. The footage showed Kim in the box and Dave fighting on the ice surface. There were no connects I could identify in the clip. The Oilers seemed to be getting the overall edge in the bout as another player was on top of a Penguin and landing some effective punches. Colin Campbell tackled a Penguin as well.

Glen Sather was seething with anger. He picked up a water bottle and tossed it towards either a Penguin player or member of the coaching staff. The crowd got rowdy and Sather stuck his head over the boards and was threatening a response. Cam Connor and Doug Hicks were up along the boards with him.

Security came down to prevent any futher altercation between the Oilers and Penguins fans. This was a hide-the-women-and-children game. A poor young lady was shaken up and welled up in tears.

This was a wild brawl that went on for a long time. Clackson and Semenko were the main-event fighters. Cam Connor was actively involved. This was a wild scene where there was almost a major incident with the crowd. It doesn't get more exciting than this.
 Fun 
10
Durbano
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Jan 21, 2008 21:03 ET
Taking liberties by posting this from another Board but this individual was at the game and describes the brawl in great fashion (I just posted a link to a YouTube highlight of the fight) but this overview gives a great idea of what hockey used to be like:

It was one of those nights where there was that buzz in the air before the game. Just felt like one of those special nights, that you can feel that something is going to happen.

The game was very chippy. Very uncharactistic for a Penguin game back then. Orest Kindrachuk was playing that old Flyer style with his stick high. There were a few fights before the bench clear (I have the clippings but I am going from memory right now). I don't think there was one after the brawl. They were all probaby tired. The brawl lasted 59 minutes. I remember Anderson fighting Messier and decking him with one punch ending the fight real fast. Later, in the game, Anderson/Messier came together around center ice but before they could square off Lumley jumped in and Anderson/Lumley started to go. Just as it started to get going, Messier grabbed the back of Anderson's jerseys and Lumley fell on top of him. Also, behind the Pens net Carlyle fought Brent Callighen or Lumley. I think it was Callighen though. And Carlyle just pounded him. I remember Callighen's face being a mask of red.

Before the end of the second period, Gretzky was going behind the net. Clackson cut him off. Gretzky took a dive to draw a penalty and when he was falling to the ice, Clackson's stick cut him. It did not look intentional. While Gretzky laid on the ground like he was shot, the EDM trainer came onto the ice. Well instead of one player bringing the trainer on, two or three players came onto the ice with him.

One of the players was Semenko. I was sitting above the penalty box in C section which was about halfway up. This was directly across from the where the action was now.

Semenko had Clackson up against the boards as they were jawing. They were surrounded by other players. All of a sudden, Semenko got the drop on Clackson and started firing punches. Clackson was trying to fire back but Semenko was just unloading. It looked like Semenko was hammering a peg into the ground. Give Clackson credit, he was not trying to stay down, he kept trying to stand up but kept going down to his knees. Well, the linesman came in and broke it up and escorted both guys to the penalty box. While this was going in (remember I am directly above the penalty box) a scrum started in the far right corner. The Pens were outmanned because of the extra EDM players that came out with the trainer.

Semenko and Clackson started jawing from the penalty box. Kindrachuk, while being held by an EDM player, started waving the bench. First off the bench was Rick Kehoe, when Kehoe is your first player off the bench, you know you are in trouble. The officials were trying to break everything up down in the end. Semenko started to put his leg over the penalty box and look down the end to see if any officals were looking. It was like a scene out of wrestling where the villian has the foreign object and the ref does not see it but all the fans do. The fans are going crazy, screaming but the officals are too busy. Semenko comes out of the box and does a semi-circle facing Clackson in the box. Next thing you know Semenko and Clackson are shadow boxing. Semenko on the ice and Clackson in the box. At this point, the punches are not even coming a foot from each other but it looks really good. One of Semenko's jabs makes Clackson slip backwards and at that point, Clackson decides to go onto the ice. He gets caught between warding off Semenko and coming out the door and Semenko catches him. They start going at in front of the benches.

While this is going on, not one Penguin is winning any fights. Mostly it is just grappling and wrestling. I remember Colin Campbell (EDM) coming off the bench and grabbing Nick Libett and twisting his jersey around his neck. Campbell just chucked him about the entire fight. Libett's face was beat red. Campbell was with Pittsburgh the prior season and Libett had just come over in a trade during the off season so Campbell probably grabbed the only guy he did not know.

Back to Semenko/Clackson in front of the box. Clackson was doing better this time, but was still getting beat. Eventually, the linesman came over and broke them up. There were a few players milling around them. Semenko while being held by the linesman, had his hands free and started to brush his hands like Brashear does. This threw Clackson into a rage and he either broke free or dragged the lineman over to Semenko who was still being held and they started to go again. Clackson probably did his best in this fight but was probably just edged by Semenko.

At this point, Semenko was escorted to the dressing room and went there without any trouble. Probably could not wait to have a cig after catching his breath. Clackson was escorted to the opposite end of the ice and was holding onto the dashboard. A Civic Arena guard came out onto the ice and help pull Clackson into the runway.

All the fighting was going down at the other end of the ice. About a minute or two later, there comes Clackson out of the dressing room. He stops at center ice and puts up his hands and starts waving for anyone to come take him on. An Oiler obligies, (I can not remember who) but it was not much of a fight. At this point, Clackson goes over to the team bench to get his tie-down, strapped down. Sather picks up a water bottle while standing on the bench and throws it at Clackson. It misses and Clackson picks it up and nails Sather with it, knocking Sather off balance. At this point, the fans start throwing beer down on Sather. The EDM players see this and start to go into the stands. Luckily, the glass collapses and the cops come down so it does not escalate. At that point, that pretty much ended all the fighting.
 Fun 
10
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JruGordon
Jan 23, 2008 15:05 ET
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ryan
Jan 24, 2008 23:54 ET
I didn't award any stars because he stated he took the description from somewhere else. Is this the right thing to do?Reply
no.7
Jan 25, 2008 04:43 ET
Yes, no stars for quoting.Reply
no.7
Jan 25, 2008 04:45 ET
Durbano,

If you are quoting someone, please post their name or User ID with the quote.
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Durbano
Mar 9, 2008 11:30 ET
This was a great description of the brawl from someone who actually was there. The reason I didn't use a name is because the individual is from another board. I thought it was a good description but if it broke rules, then delete it.Reply
ryan
Mar 9, 2008 15:34 ET
You didn't break any rules at all. It's a great description, just not able to award stars for it because it's not actually yours.Reply
RedWingsWereTough
Apr 5, 2008 02:43 ET
The quality of that footage is simply astonishing when you take into consideration that the game took place 28 years ago!

I would probably commit murder for a copy of this game, LOL
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racersno5clackson
Jul 22, 2008 10:07 ET
Please, consider the consequences of your act, before you kill anyone. It was after all, just a hockey game.Reply
RedWingsWereTough
Jul 22, 2008 14:34 ET
Quote from message by racersno5clackson
Please, consider the consequences of your act, before you kill anyone. It was after all, just a hockey game.
LOL, you are right

I might commit a less damaging offense, such as Jaywalking, in order to obtain a full copy.
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blazer16
Nov 8, 2011 11:25 ET
Pretty amazing video for 1980! So clear!!!Reply


Fight at 27:33
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Duration N/AThrownLanded   Big   
 Eddie Mio 5'10'' 1180lb 5N/AN/AN/AN/A
 Greg Millen 5'9'' 1175lb 5N/AN/AN/A
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Fight at 27:33
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Duration N/AThrownLanded   Big   
 Mark Messier 6'2'' 4211lb 16N/AN/AN/AN/A
 Kim Clackson 5'10'' 4195lb 16N/AN/AN/A
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Fight at 27:33
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Duration N/AThrownLanded   Big   
 Dave Semenko 6'3'' 1215lb 15N/AN/AN/AN/A
 Russ Anderson 6'2'' 1200lb 15N/AN/AN/A
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Fight at 27:33
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Duration N/AThrownLanded   Big   
 Dave Lumley 5'11'' 1185lb 10N/AN/AN/AN/A
 Orest Kindrachuk 5'10'' 1175lb 10N/AN/AN/A
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Fight at 27:33
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Duration N/AThrownLanded   Big   
 Cam Connor 6'2''  200lb  N/AN/AN/AN/A
 Russ Anderson 6'2''  200lb  N/AN/AN/A
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BattleshipRules
Aug 27, 2013 16:11 ET
I think Anderson was the guy who Connor nailed with a couple of sucker shots in the clip. Cam was a veteran fighter who was very dangerous in these situations. He was a little past his best days as a fighter, but he was one of the best fighters in WHA history.Reply


Fight at 27:33
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Duration N/AThrownLanded   Big   
 Mark Messier 6'2'' 3211lb 21N/AN/AN/AN/A
 Pat Hughes 5'11'' 3190lb 21N/AN/AN/A
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Fight at 27:33
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Duration N/AThrownLanded   Big   
 Dave Semenko 6'3'' 5215lb 20N/AN/AN/AN/A
 Kim Clackson 5'10'' 5195lb 20N/AN/AN/A
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Aug 27, 2013 15:22 ET
Outcome: N/A Fun 
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This was a pretty interesting matchup between a couple of experienced fighters. Clackson started some trouble by nailing an Oiler from behind and knocking him over. I couldn't identify the player, but it looked like he was injured.

The clip of the brawl only showed bits and pieces of the action. This looked like a doozy. Semenko squared off with the Clacker. Dave landed an average right and landed a partial connect. Kim missed a punch, landed a partial connect, and missed a few blows. Then, Clackson landed a good left hand that landed flush. Semenko clinched and the clip cut out to more action later in the brawl.

I won't render a verdict on the bout because I'm unsure as to how it ended. Clackson was ahead in the fight by virtue of landing a good flush left hand. Later in the clip, Semenko was slugging it out with a guy in the penalty box. I'm not sure if this was a continuation of the bout with Kim or a battle with another Penguin. This was quite a brawl and Glen Sather was incensed.
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BattleshipRules
Aug 27, 2013 15:26 ET
I think Luciano's reviews on these three fights need to go. He did not see the fights and is relying on second hand accounts. He also is taking some of his info from Semenko's book, which may not accurately describe what really happened. From what I could see Clackson did pretty well. There is not nearly enough first-hand evidence to pad Semenko's record by giving him three wins over the Clacker.Reply
no.7
Aug 28, 2013 06:36 ET
Luciano's review has been pulled.

There's been quite a few complaints about his reviews, probably enough to consider him generally unreliable and pulling them all. If you come to the same conclusion, please let us know.
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Fight at 27:33
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 Dave Semenko 6'3'' 5215lb 20N/AN/AN/AN/A
 Kim Clackson 5'10'' 5195lb 20N/AN/AN/A
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Fight at 27:33
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 Dave Semenko 6'3'' 5215lb 20N/AN/AN/AN/A
 Kim Clackson 5'10'' 5195lb 20N/AN/AN/A
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Fight at 33:34
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 Brett Callighen 5'11'' 1182lb 18N/AN/AN/AN/A
 Randy Carlyle 5'10'' 1200lb 18N/AN/AN/A
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Fight at 37:13
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 Colin Campbell 5'9'' 3190lb  N/AN/AN/AN/A
 Greg Malone 6'0'' 3190lb  N/AN/AN/A
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serge77
Dec 30, 2006 12:22 ET
total 267 PIM's. Pittsburgh 144 PIM's home official recordReply
Durbano
Jan 21, 2008 14:30 ET
Highlights of the brawl.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frSnNOMdWyE
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