Feb 19, 2012
St. Louis - Chicago1-3

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1  59:51  Refused to Fight  Crombeen-Mayers
2  59:51  Fight  Reaves-Scott

Refused to Fight at 59:51
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 B.J. Crombeen  (Aggressor) 6'2'' 1209lb 8N/A
 Jamal Mayers  (Refused) 6'1'' 1217lb 8
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 SarcasticPillow
14865 fight reviews
24 fight logs

Feb 21, 2012 06:14 ET
Jamal Mayers is checked by Alex Pietrangelo and knocks him down afterward. Pietrangelo slashes Mayers in the leg and he skates past and then B.J. Crombeen comes in to get after Mayers. They grab onto each other and begin to grapple with Crombeen dropping his glove. Mayers keeps his gloves on and Crombeen decides to keep his other glove on too as a linesmen steps in between them. Crombeen and Mayers do a little bit of talking while Pietrangelo comes close to the two and is then crosschecked by John Scott. That gets Ryan Reaves involved and leads to a fight between them. While that's getting going, Crombeen and Mayers drop their gloves but the linesmen stays between them and pushes them apart. Fun 
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NhlFan91
Feb 19, 2012 12:11 ET
This wan't totally a refuse as much as the refs jumped into it before they could both really get going although Crombeen did buy a little time for the refsReply
pepitofraser
Feb 19, 2012 12:12 ET
Crombeen dropped them and wanted to go, Mayers kept a glove on and the refs split them up.Reply
NhlFan91
Feb 19, 2012 12:15 ET
Quote from message by pepitofraser
Crombeen dropped them and wanted to go, Mayers kept a glove on and the refs split them up.
The refs didn't wanna let anyone fight
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pepitofraser
Feb 19, 2012 12:22 ET
Yeah they did, they were waiting for crombeen and mayers to start throwing them. It was Mayers who didn't want to go, he kept a glove on so the refs moved in.Reply
belaknumberthree
Feb 19, 2012 15:57 ET
hm thats weird mayers is never one to shy away or back down, especially to a guy like crombeen. not saying it didnt happen just never seen him do that.Reply


Fight at 59:51
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 Ryan Reaves 6'1'' 7224lb 46310N/A
 John Scott 6'8'' 7270lb 46510
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 EC
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1 fight log

Feb 20, 2012 19:38 ET
Draw Fun 
4
At the end of the game between Central Division rivals the Chicago Blackhawks and the St. Louis Blues, Jamal Mayers takes a run at Alex Pietrangelo in the neutral zone and knocks him down. Pietrangelo reponds by slashing Mayers. Mayers is soon challenged by fellow middleweight B.J. Crombeen. Crombeen drops his gloves and grabs Mayers. Surprisingly Mayers keeps his gloves on and backs down. However this draws all of the other players on the over and a scrum develops.

As the players gather, Pietrangelo is standing near Crombeen and Mayers who are being separated by the linesmen. Chicago heavyweight John Scott comes in and cross checks Pietrangelo from behind and sends him to the ice. St. Louis enforcer Ryan Reaves immediately rushes in and he grabs Scott from behind. Reaves takes the much larger Scott to the ice.

The two men want to fight now. They get back up and a linesman attempts to separate them. However he decides to let them go and he backs off. Both men have lost their helmets. Scott throws two overhand rights that connect to the side of Reaves' head. Reaves tosses a jersey jab and Scott connects with a right. Reaves misses with a right as does Scott. Scott loses his balance and falls to the ice due to the momentum from his missed punch. The two go to the ice and Reaves tags Scott with a solid right before they are separated.

Scott landed more punches but Reaves connected with the best punch of the fight so I will call this fight a draw. A good job by Reaves as he defended his teammate and took on a much larger opponent in the process.
 SarcasticPillow
14865 fight reviews
24 fight logs

Feb 21, 2012 06:08 ET
Draw Fun 
3
B.J. Crombeen and Jamal Mayers get into it with less then ten seconds to go in the game. Alex Pietrangelo moves close by to them and is then flattened with a crosscheck to the back from John Scott. Ryan Reaves then hauls Scott down from behind a referee jumps in between them. Both Reaves and Scott lose their gloves while they're on the ice. Scott gets up first and waits for Reaves to get up. Once he does, the referee backs away. Scott throws two rights and lands one as Reaves gets set and keeps his head low. They pause and Scott misses a right before Reaves misses a right. Scott then throws himself off balance with a missing right and Reaves misses a right as he's pulled to the ice too. Scott covers up on the ice but Reaves lands a right while they're down and the referees get back in between them and split them up. They do some chirping after the fight and are then sent off. A fast, bad, fight between Reaves and Scott. Each landed a single punch so I call it a draw.
 michiann
3737 fight reviews

Feb 19, 2012 15:56 ET
Draw Fun 
N/A
Starts when play stops and Scott shoves Pietrangelo from behind and knocking him down. Reaves plays sheriff and grabs Scott from behind and then both just fall down together. They both get up with the refs already mixed in but Scott wants to square off so they both sort of break away from the grasp of the ref. Scott fires away a few long-traveled swings but is only able to marginally facially-connect 2 times on Reaves. However, Scott makes the mistake of slipping on a banana-peel and then Reaves takes advantage of the opportunity to land 1 good facial/head punch on the vulnerable Scott while he's down on the ice. Give Reaves credit for this good punch because it's not his fault that Scott slipped. Definitely just a draw.
Habsfan18
634 fight reviews

Feb 19, 2012 12:07 ET
Draw Fun 
3
Pretty boring fight, they wrestled, threw a few punches each and then fell down on the ice. Reaves landed a cheap punch while they were down.
primeau25
174 fight reviews

Feb 19, 2012 13:24 ET
John Scott narrow win Fun 
4
Scott landed a few before he fell down and Reaves tagged him with one on the ice.
terrry
587 fight reviews

Feb 19, 2012 13:44 ET
John Scott narrow win Fun 
3
KingsFan1980
114 fight reviews

Feb 19, 2012 14:25 ET
Draw Fun 
3
This is a draw and nothing else. Scott didnt land more then Reaves here.
zonkedforlife
586 fight reviews

Feb 19, 2012 14:28 ET
Draw Fun 
3
Oneill.the.Giant
7957 fight reviews

Feb 19, 2012 14:38 ET
John Scott narrow win Fun 
4
Mikeman
50 fight reviews

Feb 19, 2012 15:13 ET
Draw Fun 
3
Not much. Neither landed. Draw. NJ4 is out of his mind.
BradBrad49
1605 fight reviews

Feb 19, 2012 16:00 ET
Draw Fun 
3
WildCatsFights
54 fight reviews

Feb 19, 2012 16:29 ET
Draw Fun 
3
Pretty boring fight from 2 guys i expect much better from, Maybe othe tough guys will fight Scott(when he is in the line up) and realise he is not untouchable
FrAn6
3003 fight reviews

Feb 19, 2012 17:43 ET
Draw Fun 
3
toughguy420
423 fight reviews

Feb 19, 2012 20:29 ET
Draw Fun 
3
nobody lands anything good or major. clear draw
OAKIES2513
754 fight reviews

Feb 19, 2012 20:34 ET
John Scott narrow win Fun 
3
The last shot by Reaves was uncalled for. Someone really has to set him straight about doing that. Narrow win to Scott for landing more punches before they hit the ice together. I would call this fight closer to a clear win for Scott before calling it a DRAW.
mullet
17993 fight reviews

Feb 20, 2012 00:03 ET
Draw Fun 
3
Garbage fight, I don't think you can call that anything but a crap draw.
SteveTheBossBosse29
1717 fight reviews

Feb 20, 2012 01:53 ET
Ryan Reaves narrow win Fun 
3
pikkari1977
1074 fight reviews

Feb 20, 2012 05:03 ET
Draw Fun 
3
riverman72
475 fight reviews

Feb 20, 2012 06:12 ET
John Scott narrow win Fun 
3
no1steeler
1563 fight reviews

Feb 20, 2012 09:42 ET
John Scott narrow win Fun 
4
NJ4
273 fight reviews

Feb 20, 2012 10:32 ET
John Scott narrow win Fun 
3
John Scott as usual pounds away on a defensive reaves. scott misses his last punch and slips and falls. while on the ice and the linesmen in between, reaves tries to redeem himself with a cowardly cheapshot to the back of scotts head.
SmokesLetsGo
3856 fight reviews

Feb 20, 2012 19:18 ET
John Scott narrow win Fun 
3
Not much for a fight between these two heavyweights. Scott lands the only punches of the actual fight. The only punch Reaves even landed was a cheapshot to the back of Scott's head when they were both laying on the ice with linesmen on them. Pretty classless by Reaves, but still a narrow win for Scott for landing the only legitimate punches in the fight.
DerDiggler
753 fight reviews

Feb 21, 2012 08:05 ET
John Scott narrow win Fun 
5
I have to give the win to Scott here. He landed the only real punches in the stand up game. I can't give Reaves any credit for landing a punch to the back of the head of a downed opponent. It's a chicken shit move and I'm sure John has put that in the memory banks for the next time the Hawks and Blues meet. Scott had the opportunity to lay into Reaves at the very beginning of the incident, when he was standing over him...but chose not to. Not sure he'll show him the same respect next time. Keep your head on a swivel Ryan.
redwings77
829 fight reviews

Feb 21, 2012 20:12 ET
John Scott narrow win Fun 
3
Scott shoves a Blackhawk and Reaves steeps up and they dont get that many punches off and rolled to the ice and Reaves took a cheap shot to Scotts back of his head.
bracknellbeesfan22
2004 fight reviews

Oct 27, 2013 07:48 ET
Draw Fun 
3
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NhlFan91
Feb 19, 2012 12:06 ET
Not much of a fight, but when Reaves spun around with Scott and went to the ice he took a really cheap shot at the back of Scott's headReply
scrappin55
Feb 19, 2012 12:57 ET
too gumpsReply
LukeLaC
Feb 19, 2012 13:05 ET
59:51 STL Ryan Reaves : Fighting (maj) - 5 min
59:51 CHI John Scott : Fighting (maj) - 5 min
59:51 CHI Jamal Mayers : Misconduct (10 min) - 0 min
59:51 CHI John Scott : Cross checking - 2 min
59:51 STL Alex Pietrangelo : Slashing - 2 min
59:51 STL B.J. Crombeen : Misconduct (10 min) - 0 min
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IslesEnforcer
Feb 19, 2012 13:24 ET
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the247editor
Feb 19, 2012 13:53 ET
Yes...Scott is a the beast in the league right now but seriously this is a draw.Reply
NJ4
Feb 19, 2012 14:25 ET
what did reaves do to make this a draw? a cheapshot at the end isn't part of the fight.Reply
Fighting101
Feb 19, 2012 14:49 ET
Quote from message by NJ4
what did reaves do to make this a draw? a cheapshot at the end isn't part of the fight.
I think the question you should ask is, what did John Scott do to earn the win?It's not about what Reaves did, it's about what the WINNER does. Did Scott do enough to earn a win in your eyes? If so, that's fine. Reaves did nothing, but Scott landed nothing and fell to the ice because he wasn't in any sort of control. In my eyes, he did nothing to earn the win.
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Mikeman
Feb 19, 2012 15:14 ET
Quote from message by NJ4
what did reaves do to make this a draw? a cheapshot at the end isn't part of the fight.
I'm sorry but you're out of your mind if you think this is a clear win.
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KingsFan1980
Feb 19, 2012 15:26 ET
This is far from a clear win.Reply
michiann
Feb 19, 2012 16:02 ET
Quote from message by NJ4
what did reaves do to make this a draw? a cheapshot at the end isn't part of the fight.
It's not Reaves' fault that Scott left himself in a vulnerable position so that Reaves can land 1 head/facial punch. I've seen this same situation happen quite a few times in the nhl and I never blamed the adversarial fighter for taking the opportunity for landing a punch while the other person is vulnerable ... so, tooooo bad for Scott.
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Brassknux
Feb 19, 2012 17:10 ET
Quote from message by michiann
It's not Reaves' fault that Scott left himself in a vulnerable position so that Reaves can land 1 head/facial punch. I've seen this same situation happen quite a few times in the nhl and I never blamed the adversarial fighter for taking the opportunity for landing a punch while the other person is vulnerable ... so, tooooo bad for Scott.
Give me a break. When they are engaged maybe, but you VERY SELDOM see a guy throw a punch to the BACK of a guy's head when he's down. Punk, coward move by Reeves..he's better than that. That will get around the league fast.
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michiann
Feb 19, 2012 17:29 ET
Quote from message by Brassknux
Give me a break. When they are engaged maybe, but you VERY SELDOM see a guy throw a punch to the BACK of a guy's head when he's down. Punk, coward move by Reeves..he's better than that. That will get around the league fast.
I completely disagree with you because I've seen it too many times when one guy is at a disadvantage due to his own clumsiness while the other guy takes the opportunity to land punches. You have to remember that both guys are "seeing red" and in a rage, so they're not concerned with the other guy's good or bad position during a fight.
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OAKIES2513
Feb 19, 2012 20:32 ET
Quote from message by michiann
It's not Reaves' fault that Scott left himself in a vulnerable position so that Reaves can land 1 head/facial punch. I've seen this same situation happen quite a few times in the nhl and I never blamed the adversarial fighter for taking the opportunity for landing a punch while the other person is vulnerable ... so, tooooo bad for Scott.
Maybe I would agree with you if this happened once, but Reaves has done this in many of his fights before. A bunch came in the AHL. Reaves has never honored the code and is a disrespectful fighter IMO.
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michiann
Feb 19, 2012 20:43 ET
Quote from message by OAKIES2513
Maybe I would agree with you if this happened once, but Reaves has done this in many of his fights before. A bunch came in the AHL. Reaves has never honored the code and is a disrespectful fighter IMO.
There is nothing wrong with what Reaves did, so it doesn't matter even if he did that a hundred times in the past, it's still considered ok by many in here at DYG.
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UkiddinMe
Feb 19, 2012 22:23 ET
Quote from message by michiann
There is nothing wrong with what Reaves did, so it doesn't matter even if he did that a hundred times in the past, it's still considered ok by many in here at DYG.
it was totally against the code. Reeves is a jerk, colton will probably slap him around this summer for pulling such a chicken bleep move.
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Tomahawkchopper
Feb 19, 2012 23:55 ET
It's odd that you point out the "cowardly" punch thrown at Scott, but you leave out the cowardly spear that Scott threw at Reaves' teammate which brought Ryan in to defend him.
I agree that the punch to the back of Scott's head was cheap, but when you're retaliating for a cheapshot committed against your teammate, then you have to expect it. Don't spear someone in the back and then expect to fight by the Marquess of Queensberry Rules.
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michiann
Feb 20, 2012 12:55 ET
Quote from message by UkiddinMe
it was totally against the code. Reeves is a jerk, colton will probably slap him around this summer for pulling such a chicken bleep move.
Well, your code and my code are 2 different codes, so you and me "are not going to see eye to eye" (gently-said).
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